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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.05.27 10:52:00 -
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Zero day patch exploits are one of the most MMO damaging events. I hope it'll get fixed ASAP and the undue income rolled back, like a serious gaming company should do.
(Yes, I keep dreaming). - Auditing & consulting
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.05.27 10:57:00 -
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By a simple skimming of this thread, the Reader will be able to exactly identify auditors, mongers and the other involved categories. - Auditing & consulting
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.05.27 12:29:00 -
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Ok I'm confused. Whenever someone comes onto MD or singatures, etc. and whines about something being unfair or having missed some opportunity or otherwise having fallen victim to basically anything the standard response is "Go back to WOW, noob"
Let me put it in a blunt way (like always):
- You come on MD crying you lost 2B because you bought 3-4 destroyers at 700M each.
or
- You come on MD crying you bought 10B worth of widgets and now with the expansion out, they are tanking instead of rising.
or
- You come on MD crying a guy outbidded you to extinction or owned you with a market manipulation.
In these cases you HTFU and learn to use the brain.
- You find out how to enter a system without appearing in local (happened few weeks ago)
or
- At zero day past <insert here big event, ie patch> you find how to trick the system into making you billions because some devs were chimpanzes.
or
- You find how to perma-crash a node with some trick...
If instead of informing the devs you practice these tricks then you are an exploiter no less than RMTers and should be banned.
One thing is to use brain to catch opportunities within the sandbox, another is to exploit opportunities drilling thru the sandbox.
Otherwise you deserve an excalation resulting in devs logging in game and self creating 10000 trillions ISK for themselves and patronizing you to get back to WoW if you don't like it. The mechanism is the same. - Auditing & consulting
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.05.27 13:59:00 -
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Take the insurance fraud for instance. That is more or less the same thing. The basic system was flawed, creating a loophole where it paid to produce&destroy ships to get cash from an NPC agency which was more than the amount invested to produce the ship.
Insurance fraud is a valve of pressure, a mechanism to force a support level for minerals value. Plus it's controlled, that is you could not go "beyond" it: someone would just arbitrage away all the deltas. It's intended to act like it does and the devs had years to change it. Years = they had plenty to see exactly its properties and limits.
It's somewhat different from the case of using a collateral effect of a super-new feature to self amplify gains with no acceptable limit.
- Auditing & consulting
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.05.27 15:25:00 -
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Lots of OMG EXPLOIT shouts going on here, without anyone actually doing the math.
The only one using caps here seem to be you.
Also, just because an exploit brings in bad profits (SencneS seems to differ with you) does not make it a non exploit.
This is what I don't like of EvE (posted a longer tantrum on Block's thread): in EvE if you are a jerk, a shark or worse, you are in the Nirvana. It's so NOT realistic that a sandbox only prizes the smart asses, the cheaters, the mongers. When I'll get out of this office later today, I don't expect someone to surely come out and kill me to take my 10 euros if given ANY opportunity. Somehow, the real sandbox is flexible enough to self regulate itself from the inside. Why EvE can't achieve something similar? It's like a shirt wearing too tight. Works, but you don't feel great. - Auditing & consulting
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